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Comment author: ChristianKl 23 May 2013 12:51:59PM 1 point [-]

It seems to me that a similar analogy can be made with happiness, where happiness is thrive mode and depression is survive mode.

People who are depressed aren't very productive. Depression is no useful survival mode.

Yvain theorizes in the post how someone who formulates a heuristic for themselves early on in their life that says "the world is basically dangerous" will become a right-winger, and someone with the opposite heuristic will become a left-winger, and this explains why people divide so easily into political categories.

I don't think that people are so easily devideable into political categories.

Comment author: drethelin 24 May 2013 04:51:47AM 0 points [-]

I can imagine plenty of situations where passively being sad and not going out and attempting to be productive are safer. Maybe depression is an alternative to cabin fever? Long hard winters are easier to survive if you're too depressed to go out and possibly freeze to death and instead stay in your cave/yurt eating the most easily accessible saved food. That would explain the evolutionary value of Seasonal Affective Disorder.

Comment author: tut 25 May 2013 07:32:21AM 1 point [-]

That would explain the evolutionary value of Seasonal Affective Disorder.

There are more people with SAD who get depressed in the spring than in early winter or the darkest part of winter.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 24 May 2013 02:03:54PM 0 points [-]

Another thought from hypothesis land: maybe a little depression is a chance to retire and regroup, but in the original environment, there was more that would pull people out of depression-- social contact and work that obviously needs to be done.

This is about mild-to-moderate depression, though. Major depression seems to be different, and not good for anything.

Comment author: drethelin 24 May 2013 05:55:03PM 0 points [-]

I wonder what the highest rate of occurrence something can have and still be an evolutionarily detrimental spandrel, rather than an evolved response we just don't understand.

Comment author: tut 25 May 2013 07:33:32AM 2 points [-]

If the harm can be something that only occurs under some circumstances that didn't obtain in the EEA, 100%