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aelephant comments on Is a paperclipper better than nothing? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: aelephant 27 May 2013 08:56:24AM 1 point [-]

[D]oes the existence of any intelligence at all, even a paperclipper, have even the smallest amount of utility above no intelligence at all?

Have utility to whom?

I presume when we are all dead, we will have no utility functions.

Comment author: DataPacRat 27 May 2013 02:21:08PM 3 points [-]

:) Usually, I'm the one who has to point this idea out when such discussions come up.

But to answer your question - it would be the you-of-the-present who is making a judgement call about which future scenario present-you values more. While it's true that there won't be a future-you within either future with which to experience said future, that doesn't mean present-you can't prefer one outcome to the other.

Comment author: aelephant 28 May 2013 12:02:59AM 1 point [-]

Because present-me knows that I won't be around to experience either future, present-me doesn't care either way. I'd flip a coin if I had to decide.

Comment author: MugaSofer 28 May 2013 11:46:45AM 3 points [-]

Which is why, naturally, you wouldn't sacrifice your life to save the world.

Comment author: aelephant 30 May 2013 10:53:51AM -1 points [-]

Little different than the proposed situation. There would be plenty of other people with utility functions surviving if I sacrificed myself to save the world.

Comment author: Decius 27 May 2013 10:43:00PM 0 points [-]

Does entropy in an isolated system decrease in either universe? Present-me considers the indistinguishable end states equivalent.

Comment author: bogdanb 28 May 2013 12:29:00AM 1 point [-]

I know this doesn’t sound quite consequentialistic enough for some around here, but sometimes the journey matters too, not just the destination ;-)

And when the destination is guaranteed to be the same...