You're looking at Less Wrong's discussion board. This includes all posts, including those that haven't been promoted to the front page yet. For more information, see About Less Wrong.

lukstafi comments on Is a paperclipper better than nothing? - Less Wrong Discussion

6 Post author: DataPacRat 24 May 2013 07:34PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (116)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: lukstafi 29 May 2013 06:05:53AM 0 points [-]

Is babyeating necessarily in babyeaters' CEV? Which of our developments (drop slavery, stop admiring Sparta etc.) were in our CEV "from the beginning"? Perhaps the dynamics has some degree of convergence even if with more than one basin of attraction.

Comment author: [deleted] 09 June 2013 08:54:00AM 0 points [-]

Which of our developments (drop slavery, stop admiring Sparta etc.) were in our CEV "from the beginning"?

People disagree about that, and given that it has political implications (google for "moral progress") I dare no longer even speculate about that.

Comment author: lukstafi 09 June 2013 09:43:29AM *  0 points [-]

I agree with your premise, I should have talked about moral progress rather than CEV. ETA: one does not need a linear order for the notion of progress, there can be multiple "basins of attraction". Some of the dynamics consists of decreasing inconsistencies and increasing robustness.