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Emile comments on Open Thread, June 2-15, 2013 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Emile 03 June 2013 08:58:24AM 4 points [-]

I'm pretty sure he meant "19 yo as of tomorrow" and not "male as of tomorrow", though I did consider teasing him about that (which may be what you are doing! Those things can be hard to tell online).

Comment author: syllogism 03 June 2013 09:55:50AM 3 points [-]

Well with the username I really thought it more likely he was trans. Shrug.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 03 June 2013 12:13:23PM *  5 points [-]

This is a nice Bayes learning opportunity. It's reasonable to infer that a female-looking username makes someone more likely to be female, maybe twice as likely (not much more than that; this is the internet and people give themselves weird usernames all the time, and actual women may avoid using female-looking usernames in male-dominated forums to avoid drawing attention to their gender). However, the base rate of transsexualism, even within a community as unusual as LW, is still incredibly low and requires a lot of evidence to overcome (e.g. someone telling you they're transsexual).

Comment author: syllogism 03 June 2013 01:16:06PM 4 points [-]

Do you really think 1/3rd of users named gothgirl* would be male? I'd guess something like 1-10%, compared with 1-3% transsexualism on LW: http://lesswrong.com/lw/fp5/2012_survey_results/

Comment author: Desrtopa 03 June 2013 02:46:55PM 3 points [-]

On Less Wrong in particular, I would assign a high likelihood to various permutations of "gothgirl" being ironic, rather than sincere self expression of the user.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 03 June 2013 03:25:58PM *  1 point [-]

Yeah, sure. This is the internet. (Acknowledged that the base rate of transsexualism on LW is higher than I had expected.)

Comment author: Emile 03 June 2013 12:26:20PM 4 points [-]

(for what it's worth, I didn't reason using base rates, I just remember an early comment by gothgirl420666 saying he was male and only took that name for the lulz)

Comment author: katydee 04 June 2013 05:30:49AM 2 points [-]

not much more than that; this is the internet and people give themselves weird usernames all the time

Oh hey, what's up?

Comment author: Larks 03 June 2013 11:51:46AM 2 points [-]

You thought his username gave you over 13 bits of evidence?

Comment author: syllogism 03 June 2013 12:51:06PM *  11 points [-]

I needed fewer than 13 bits of evidence: http://lesswrong.com/lw/fp5/2012_survey_results/

I likely committed some level of base-rate fallacy though (regardless of what the truth turns out to be). Trans* is more available to me because I hang out in queer communities, and know multiple transgender people.

Comment author: BlindIdiotPoster 08 August 2013 09:10:37AM 1 point [-]

The username contains more than 13 bits of information (being 14 characters long) so this might not be too unreasonable.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 08 August 2013 07:52:44AM 0 points [-]

Transsexualism seems way overrepresented in geeky circles: off the top of my head, I could think of seven MtF and two FtM transsexuals within my circle of acquaintances, and there might be a few that I'm forgetting. LW definitely matches the definition of a "geeky community", so assuming a relatively high base rate would have been reasonable to me, based on my experience.

Comment author: gothgirl420666 03 June 2013 12:51:57PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, that's what I meant.