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shminux comments on Open Thread, June 2-15, 2013 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: shminux 06 June 2013 05:14:55PM 5 points [-]

I'm wondering if CFAR ever tried to approach Rowling for a permission to get HPMoR monetized for charitable and transhumanist purposes, on whichever terms.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 07 June 2013 08:35:24PM 6 points [-]

Probably safer to do that after HPMoR is finished. Otherwise there is a chance she would forward the letter to her lawyer, the lawyer would send a cease and desist letter to CFAR, and then what?

If the same thing happens after HPMoR is finished, it can be removed from web and shared among LW members in ways that give plausible deniability to CFAR. But you can't have plausible deniability while Eliezer continues to write new chapters.

Comment author: shminux 07 June 2013 09:26:57PM *  1 point [-]

Otherwise there is a chance she would forward the letter to her lawyer, the lawyer would send a cease and desist letter to CFAR, and then what?

JKR is on the record as no longer opposing non-slash fanfiction:

For the avoidance of doubt, our clients make no complaint about innocent fan fiction written by genuine Harry Potter fans.

so this is probably a bit paranoid. But I suppose your second paragraph makes sense.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 08 June 2013 07:49:42AM *  2 points [-]

A big part of the cease-fire between IP holders and fanfic authors is probably the unwritten rule that the fanfic shall not be directly monetized.

Comment author: gwern 08 June 2013 06:09:08PM 4 points [-]

Sometimes written, too. For example, in Japanese doujins, we have the Touhou Project/ZUN issuing an explicit license where Touhou creators are given permission to do their thing, but if they want to sell their works outside a convention like Reitaisai or a doujin-focused reseller like Toranoana, they have to contact him and work out a licensing agreement.