You're looking at Less Wrong's discussion board. This includes all posts, including those that haven't been promoted to the front page yet. For more information, see About Less Wrong.

Zaine comments on Open Thread, June 2-15, 2013 - Less Wrong Discussion

5 Post author: TimS 02 June 2013 02:22AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (433)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: Zaine 10 June 2013 07:00:20AM 1 point [-]

My soul is here defined as my supernatural non-material essence as specified by Judeo-Christian philosophers[...]

What do you intend to do with your soul(s) as defined by other schools of philosophy?
By Plato's theory of Ideal Forms, selling your soul would be tantamount to selling bits of the gods - and man has no claim to the gods. I'd advise against this lest you wish to become fate-brothers with Prometheus.

Comment author: [deleted] 10 June 2013 11:58:51AM 0 points [-]

By Plato's theory of Ideal Forms, selling your soul would be tantamount to selling bits of the gods

What? Citation needed.

Comment author: Zaine 10 June 2013 07:18:49PM 0 points [-]
Comment author: [deleted] 10 June 2013 11:31:04PM *  1 point [-]

Ah, Socrates supposes there that the soul is "like the divine" as opposed to the body which is like mortal things. He means that the soul is in the class of things that are unchanging, immutable, invisible, and grasped by the intellect rather than the senses, He doesn't say anything about the soul being a 'part of the gods'. And it doesn't sound like he's thinking of anything like the Prometheus myth, given the things he associates with the soul (ideal, invisible, immutable, etc.).

If you asked Plato about selling your soul, I think he would think you were just being silly.

Comment author: Zaine 10 June 2013 11:54:22PM 0 points [-]

If something was divine, then it was under the domain of the gods; I was making a simple extrapolation.

Comment author: [deleted] 11 June 2013 12:00:04AM 0 points [-]

Yeah, but that's not a sound inference, given the context. No mention is made there of the gods, and the context pulls wide away from reading 'divine' in terms of traditional Greek mythology. I see no reason to think Socrates (or Plato) thinks any of that stuff was real.