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Comment author: drnickbone 04 June 2013 07:37:35PM *  1 point [-]

It's assuming the fixed costs can be recuperated... if a firm can exit the industry and sell its initial investment at a comparable price to what they bought it for

That sounds like assuming no depreciation and no cost of capital, right?

Otherwise, imagine a firm considers increasing its capacity via investing in a productive asset, for an upfront cost A. There is a depreciation rate d, and a cost of capital (interest, dividends etc) of c. If the firm sells the asset after r years, then its sale value in year r will be something like A x (1 - d)^r, and the present terminal value will be something like A x ((1 -d)/(1+c))^r.

So in the business pan, the firm should assume a fixed cost not strictly of A, but rather of A x (1 - ((1-d)/(1+c))^r). If (d+c)r is roughly 1 or more then this will be about A; only if (d+c)r is much less than 1 can this cost be ignored.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 04 June 2013 10:08:31PM 0 points [-]

As | understand it, it assumes no or low depreciation, but says nothing about the cost of capital. The definition of "profit" that I've been using is "extra profit to the company after all investors have been paid at the rate the market would demand, and employee and entrepreneurs have been reimbursed for their time and effort".