I see your point but I still think you're being unfair. Viliam_Bur's hypothetical leftish ideologue reads to me as only a little more strawmanish than his hypothetical libertarianish ideologue. I can imagine a right-libertarian Multiheaded from a parallel universe reading VB's post and complaining (for example) that "I expect government to introduce bureaucracy and pervert good ideas" is a terrible strawman on the grounds that all right-thinking right-libertarians are well aware that using "bureaucracy" as a derogative is an unreflective cheap shot, that government bureaucracies sometimes merely substitute for private bureaucracies, that governments have implemented good ideas without perverting them, and so on.
Admittedly, when I read Viliam_Bur's comments on politics, I do occasionally suspect the unconscious operation of the thought process you sarcastically identify (which is not to say it's ever the dominant thought process at work). In fairness, I think VB himself often detects it too, and tries to consciously offset that in-group sensibility bias when he notices it. But now I am piling one speculation on top of another.
In any case, I agree that Viliam_Bur's meta-level argument here is correct: ideologies make conflicting empirical claims as well as conflicting normative claims, and so empirical claims can reveal as much information about one's ideology as normative claims can. For a local example, look at the correlation between politics and expected probability of global warming on the last LW survey. (For an even more local example, see this thread.)
Even if I concede that "I'm strawmanning one side only a little more than the other" accurately describes what's going on here, which I'm not sure I do, I'm still not sure I endorse it.
Admittedly, if representing the two sides is worth doing in the first place, and representing them without strawmanning them is not worth the effort, and representing them by strawmanning them equally is not worth the effort, then the above is probably the next best choice. But I'm not sure any of that is true.
Not that this thread is unique in this respect. Lots o...
I was thinking about the hazards of bad government, and wondering if there was a way for the LW community to do something to oppose them, and it occurred to me that we might be picking up the problem by the wrong end.
The usual way of thinking about political action is to start with one's political identity (progressive, libertarian, whatever), and that's likely to put one at odds with people who have opposed identities.
Instead, I believe there are projects which could appeal to rationalists across a wide range of the political spectrum. A couple I can think of are opposing the war on drugs and improving judicial systems. Any other suggestions?