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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 18 June 2013 06:37:59AM 6 points [-]

I note that while the Sith are implicitly condemned for their desire to cheat death, the Jedi are portrayed as actually achieving it. There is a lot of "have your cake and eat it too" moral propaganda. Condemn the desire for something, while granting the desire to those denying it.

Furthermore, the Sith can save others, the Jedi only save themselves. Why are the Jedi the good guys again?

Comment author: wedrifid 18 June 2013 08:04:51AM 1 point [-]

Furthermore, the Sith can save others, the Jedi only save themselves. Why are the Jedi the good guys again?

How do the Sith save others? Is there actually tech. in the movies that is used for this purpose? Or is it just something the Sith could do?

Comment author: buybuydandavis 18 June 2013 07:21:45AM 1 point [-]

He could save others from death...but not himself.

Comment author: gwern 18 June 2013 10:32:28PM 0 points [-]

'could' but I'm not sure anything in the movies (as opposed to the EU, who knows what that's gotten up to by now) implies that Darth Sidious did.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 22 June 2013 06:29:41PM 2 points [-]

I think at least the movie showed that Palpatine believed what he was saying. I didn't get any sense of deception from him when he said it. He seemed entirely congruent. Admittedly that's hardly conclusive that it in fact happened, or that he was being congruent with his memory of actual events, and not a "Sith legend" as he characterized it.

As for the Jedi, if they were able to make themselves "more powerful than you can imagine", why didn't they just do it, instead of waiting to die? And is whispering in Luke's ear supposed to be "more power than you can imagine?

Comment author: Ritalin 23 June 2013 09:47:49PM 1 point [-]

is whispering in Luke's ear supposed to be "more power than you can imagine?

Perhaps, given that Anakin seems to have a vivid imagination, "more than you can imagine" means "inconceivable" ?

"Lord Vader, Skywalker has torpedoed the Death Star into oblivion, with guidance from beyond the grave!" "Inconceivable!"

Comment author: buybuydandavis 23 June 2013 10:30:05PM *  -1 points [-]

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