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Qiaochu_Yuan comments on Public Service Announcement Collection - Less Wrong Discussion

37 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 June 2013 05:20PM

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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 27 June 2013 06:36:58PM *  9 points [-]

That's a pretty depressingly cynical view of social reciprocity. I like being able to do things for other people. (The last example doesn't seem to me to be analogous to the others.)

Comment author: Kawoomba 27 June 2013 07:08:16PM 2 points [-]

It may be cynical from your point of view, yet realistic from his. Just by participating on LW at a young-ish age, you're highly probable to belong to the "privileged" reference class. If you were a transfer student from Russia who grew up in poverty and amidst alcoholism, your view may be different.

IOW, consider anthropic, or in this case, Qiaochuopic, arguments. Feel free to correct me if in your case the above heuristic turned out to be mistaken.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 27 June 2013 06:45:18PM *  3 points [-]

That's the optimistic version, which focuses mostly on things where reciprocity can even be possible. The last example is a hint at what the depressing* version looks like.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 27 June 2013 10:01:46PM 13 points [-]

If you're in a situation where you seem to be surrounded by DefectBots, the problem is not that you are not defecting enough. The problem is to get the hell out of that situation.