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37 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 June 2013 05:20PM

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Comment author: aelephant 28 June 2013 12:41:23AM 1 point [-]

I have always heard that gold isn't meant to be a return-on-investment kind of deal, more like a safe store for your money that is going to maintain value over time.

Comment author: solipsist 28 June 2013 03:40:27PM 0 points [-]

Gold has declined more than 30% so far this year.

Comment author: aelephant 28 June 2013 11:19:15PM 0 points [-]

26.6% is more than 30%?

It will probably come back up, & since it is low now is a great time to buy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRgSJRcG4HQ

Comment author: Izeinwinter 28 June 2013 09:12:08AM 0 points [-]

Gold is about jumping the gun, both on the way in and on the way out, because it is bubble prone in highly predictable ways. This sort of trade can be entertaining, but it is not investing. You are engaging in a zero-sum game of skill against all the other participants and might as well be playing poker.

Comment author: jkaufman 28 June 2013 08:48:03PM 1 point [-]

What does "bubble prone in highly predictable ways" mean?

Comment author: Izeinwinter 29 June 2013 03:43:58PM *  3 points [-]

People buy gold under the delusion that it is an alternative, safer currency. Then they realize it isnt, the people who didn't get out in time get burned, and gold falls back down to a price where people can actually afford to have jewelry made out of it. Wait a generation (so people forget), and for something to make people get nervous about their means of exchange, and there you go again. It's tulip mania, but shiny. Profit is made by getting in during the runup to a bubble, and then getting out and staying out before it ends. The second part is very stressful, because you feel like you are missing out if you bail at any time before the absolute peak, which makes it tempting to go back in.. Which is a surefire way to wind up holding the bag when the inevitable collapse comes. Poker. Better for your blood pressure.

Comment author: SilasBarta 28 June 2013 01:16:27AM 0 points [-]

Well, it was a pretty safe bet in '08 given typical reactions to economic crises, and the prevalence of advice like this P/S/A that "oh, there totally won't be inflation from the printing money".

Comment author: Alsadius 29 June 2013 06:34:08PM 1 point [-]

You seem to be mocking the idea that we'd avoid inflation. Look at the actual inflation stats, and we have. Velocity has dropped so significantly that the quantity of money rising was necessary just to maintain stability.