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Qiaochu_Yuan comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 19, chapter 88-89 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 30 June 2013 08:56:23AM *  11 points [-]

I'm bewildered at why Quirrel thinks he can get any particular result from Harry by having Hermione killed. Or is Quirrel assuming that Harry is now in a state where he can be manipulated reliably?

Quirrell thinks Harry will take the gloves off now and accomplish goals like gaining power without any hesitation. Whatever Quirrell is up to, it seems like he wants Harry to gain power. Quote:

He'd felt the fury the boy had directed at some annoyance who was likely Dumbledore; followed by an unknown resolution whose unyielding hardness even he found adequate. With any luck, the boy had just discarded his foolish little reluctances.

Recall that Harry said the following to Quirrell in Chapter 66:

"Lessson I learned is not to try plotss that would make girl-child friend think I am evil or boy-child friend think I am sstupid," Harry snapped back.

Those two obstacles to Harry trying plots have now conveniently been removed!

Comment author: David_Gerard 01 July 2013 04:34:20PM 1 point [-]

He still has simulations of them both in his head, though.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 30 June 2013 09:12:44AM 0 points [-]

Considering Harry's capabilities, just wanting him to be more powerful seems like a very risky course. Quirrel presumably wants Harry to do something Quirrel wants that Quirrel can't do himself.

Comment author: ikrase 30 June 2013 11:39:09AM 0 points [-]

I think Quirrel wants to rule from behind the throne.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 30 June 2013 03:28:31PM 2 points [-]

That only works when you can control the king.

Comment author: Baughn 30 June 2013 04:49:48PM 4 points [-]

I don't think this new prophecy is going to make his day.

Comment author: ikrase 01 July 2013 12:50:17AM 0 points [-]

Yeah. That's what I think. Quirrel is in for a very unpleasant suprise, and is probably going to be permanently sacrificed by Harry at some point.