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bramflakes comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 19, chapter 88-89 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: bramflakes 01 July 2013 11:33:38PM 3 points [-]

I'm not capable of reasoning about time loops in my sleep-deprived state, but would it be possible for Hermione to create her Horcrux by killing herself?

Comment author: JoshuaZ 01 July 2013 11:57:02PM *  8 points [-]

Yes: Consider the following loop: Hermione A goes and kills future Hermione B (who already has a horcrux). Hermione A is then killed by the troll, but has a horcrux (possibly with a mind wipe before so she doesn't know about it). Hermione is then A is then resurrected to be sent back in time to become Hermione B. Then Hermione B is resurrected.

However, we know that messing with time is bad and we know that magic with souls is powerful, so this combination looks potentially very dangerous.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 25 August 2013 03:47:41PM *  2 points [-]

More generally, if resurrection doesn't require additional sacrifices and doesn't use up a horcrux, people who don't have horcruxes could make them by murdering other people (by arrangement) who already have one (and then resurrecting them). Eventually, everyone is alive and has a horcrux.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 25 August 2013 03:54:47PM 0 points [-]

I'm not completely sure this will work in general. It seems that magic works partially off of intent. One may need to actually believe that one is murdering the person in a permanent way. However, even that could be handled with memory charms.