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Velorien comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 20, chapter 90 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Velorien 03 July 2013 07:39:34PM *  7 points [-]

To throw on the pile of random maybe-foreshadowing:

I can well foresee that I am fated to sit in the Headmaster's office and hear some hilarious tale about Professor Quirrell in which you and you alone play a starring role, after which there will be no choice but to fire him. I am already resigned to it, Mr. Potter.

-McGonagall, Chapter 17.

This did get me thinking, however. Firing Quirrell would presumably include removing his registration as "Defense Professor" from the Hogwarts wards. What did adding him to said wards do in the first place? The implication must be that the wards somehow distinguish students and staff from intruders, yet they have never actually prevented anyone from illegally entering Hogwarts, nor alerted anyone to such an intrusion.

Comment author: Velorien 03 July 2013 07:41:06PM *  8 points [-]

Relating to the foreshadowing part,

Harry nodded, his eyes very wide. Then, after a second, "What do I get if I can make it happen on the last day of the school year?"

Comment author: Coscott 03 July 2013 08:06:31PM 1 point [-]

This is very likely foreshadowing.

How close are we to the last day of the school year? The most recent date is April 16th. Does anyone know when Hogwarts ends in cannon?

Comment author: Velorien 03 July 2013 08:26:25PM 2 points [-]

According to the wiki, the end-of-term feast of Harry's first year took place on the 8th of June in canon.

Comment author: Coscott 03 July 2013 08:33:46PM 2 points [-]

Ok. Yeah, I think the last story arc will be about Quirrell and will take place in June, which makes me think this one ends without the world ending.

Comment author: Desrtopa 04 July 2013 05:08:40AM *  1 point [-]

I am less confident than I was before that the plot will resolve before the academic year is over.

I considered the possibility of some sort of timeskip in which Harry is engaged in intensive research, but weighing against that, I strongly doubt that Harry is going to bring back a twelve year old Hermione at a point when he himself has grown substantially older.

Comment author: linkhyrule5 04 July 2013 06:41:32AM 4 points [-]

Why?

Remember, his motivation isn't to live a life together with Hermione or something. His motivation is for Hermione to live out her life.

Comment author: Desrtopa 04 July 2013 06:54:23AM 2 points [-]

I think it's more probable in narrative terms that there will be at least some respect in which Hermione can remain Harry's peer on restoration.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 04 July 2013 06:11:26PM 0 points [-]

I'm not convinced this is the case. Or rather I suspect his main motivation is the former, with the latter being a rationalization.

Comment author: linkhyrule5 05 July 2013 09:28:02PM 1 point [-]

Um.

We've seen nothing but evidence that Harry really does care for Random Bystander #4231. His True Patronus wouldn't work if he didn't genuinely want immortality for everyone.

Even if Harry stops caring for Hermione on a personal level (... not likely), he's still going to get around to resurrecting her in the process of resurrecting everyone.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 06 July 2013 06:39:40AM *  0 points [-]

Harry's reaction to her death suggests he'd be willing to use methods to bring her back that wouldn't work applying to everyone, e.g., some type of equivalent exchange. Heck, most of the more promising ideas for saving Hermione involve killing someone else.