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tondwalkar comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 22, chapter 93 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: tondwalkar 07 July 2013 02:27:24AM 4 points [-]

Disclaimer: I am thoroughly enjoying HPMOR. That said, I just don't think Eliezer is quite grokking the substance of feminist complaints.

I agree, but I don't think you're quite groking his responses either. His main point is that it's an exercise in futility to apply critical theory to an incomplete work, in particular one that claims to be more complicated than Death Note; for all we know HG asked AD to help him fake her own death, or maybe she's been outsmarting everyone from behind the scenes all long. (Though I admit that both of these are unlikely, they would be within the level of "where did that come from?" that EY's already done)

Comment author: David_Gerard 07 July 2013 08:57:37AM *  -1 points [-]

His main point is that it's an exercise in futility to apply critical theory to an incomplete work

Then he is simply incorrect. It's not just what you do, it's the way that you do it, at all steps along the way. Having an end in mind doesn't mean you can't be called out on the means.

Comment author: Velorien 07 July 2013 10:18:01AM *  8 points [-]

Are you saying, in essence, that it doesn't matter whether this turns out not to be fridging in the end, because Eliezer could have chosen not to use a literary device that looked like fridging, and yet he did?