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Comment author: James_Miller 13 July 2013 01:23:40PM 14 points [-]

Do you build willpower in the long-run by resisting temptation? Is willpower, in the short-term at least, a limited and depletable resource?

Comment author: bramflakes 13 July 2013 01:44:29PM 2 points [-]

I don't know about the first question, but for the second: yes.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 13 July 2013 03:03:08PM *  10 points [-]
Comment author: Viliam_Bur 14 July 2013 11:12:26AM 2 points [-]

Interesting. So the willpower seems to be in the mind. Who would have guessed that? :D

How can we exploit this information to get more willpower? The first idea is to give youself rewards for using the willpower successfully. Imagine that you keep a notebook with you, and every time you have to resist a temptation, you give yourself a "victory point". For ten victory points, you buy and eat a chocolate (or whatever would be your favorite reward). Perhaps for succumbing to a temptation, you might lose a point or two.

Perhaps this could rewire the brain, so it goes from "I keep resisting and resisting, but there is no reward, so I guess I better give up" to "I keep resisting and I already won for myself a second chocolate; let's do some more resisting".

But how to deal with long-term temptation. Like, I give myself a point at the morning for not going to reddit, but now it's two hours later, I still have to resist the temptation, but I will not get another point for that, so my brain expects no more rewards. Should I perhaps get a new point every hour or two?

Also, it could have the perverse effect of noticing more possible temptations. Because, you know, you only reward yourself a point for the temptation you notice and resist.

Comment author: someonewrongonthenet 18 August 2013 01:38:45PM 0 points [-]

I think that's cheating. Willpower is the ability to unpleasant activities in exchange for positive future consequences. The chocolate / victory point is shifting the reward into the present, eliminating the need for willpower by providing immediate gratification.

(No one said cheating was a bad thing, of course)

Comment author: [deleted] 13 July 2013 02:13:01PM 2 points [-]

I once heard of a study finding that the answer is “yes” also for the first question. (Will post a reference if I find it.)

And the answer to the second question might be “yes” only for young people.