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Comment author: Raiden 14 July 2013 10:45:55PM 4 points [-]

My current view is that most animals are not people, in the sense that they are not subject to moral concern. Of course, I do get upset when I see things such as animal abuse, but it seems to me that helping animals only nets me warm fuzzy feelings. I know animals react to suffering in a manner that we can sympathize with, but it just seems to me that they are still just running a program that is "below" that of humans. I think I feel that "react to pain" does not equal "worthy of moral consideration." The only exceptions to this in my eyes may be "higher mammals" such as other primates. Yet others on this site have advocated concern for animal welfare. Where am I confused?

Comment author: drethelin 14 July 2013 11:20:27PM 3 points [-]

Are you confused? It seems like you recognize that you have somewhat different values than other people. Do you think everyone should have the same values? In that case all but one of the views is wrong. On the other hand, if values can be something that's different between people it's legitimate for some people to care about animals and others not to.

Comment author: Raiden 15 July 2013 01:44:31AM 0 points [-]

I am VERY confused. I suspect that some people can value some things differently, but it seems as though there should be a universal value system among humans as well. The thing that distinguishes "person" from "object" seems to belong to the latter.

Comment author: Baughn 15 July 2013 11:10:29AM 0 points [-]

Is that a normative 'should' or a descriptive 'should'?

If the latter, where would it come from? :-)