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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 14 July 2013 12:17:16AM 2 points [-]

When you go out to eat with friends, randomly choose who pays for the meal. In the long run this only increases the variance of your money. I think it's fun.

Comment author: BrassLion 15 July 2013 03:40:32AM 7 points [-]

This is likely to increase the total bill, much like how splitting the check evenly instead of strictly paying for what you ordered increases the total bill.

Comment author: Larks 15 July 2013 09:28:02AM 2 points [-]

Assign the probabilities in proportion to each person's fraction of the overall bill. Incentives are aligned.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 15 July 2013 05:31:36AM 2 points [-]

I haven't observed this happening among my friends. Maybe if you only go out to dinner with homo economicus...

Comment author: D_Malik 15 July 2013 10:21:04PM 3 points [-]

This is called the unscrupulous diner's dilemma, and experiments say that not only do people (strangers) respond to it like homo economicus, their utility functions seem to not even have terms for each other's welfare. Maybe you eat with people who are impression-optimizing (and mathy, so that they know the other person knows indulging is mean), and/or genuinely care about each other.

Comment author: [deleted] 22 July 2013 06:47:46PM 1 point [-]

experiments say that not only do people

From where? I'd expect it to depend a lot on how customary it is to split bills in equal parts in their culture.

(strangers)

How often do you have dinner with strangers?

Comment author: [deleted] 16 July 2013 12:03:51PM *  0 points [-]

splitting the check evenly instead of strictly paying for what you ordered increases the total bill

But it saves the time and the effort needed to compute each person's bill -- you just need one division rather than a shitload of additions.

Comment author: drethelin 15 July 2013 03:54:40AM -1 points [-]

This is actually something of an upside. If you can afford to eat out with your friends you can afford to eat a bit better and have more fun. Not caring about what your food costs makes ordering and eating more fun.

Comment author: kalium 15 July 2013 05:27:47AM 2 points [-]

If you can afford to eat out with your friends you can afford to eat a bit better and have more fun.

"If you can afford $X, you can afford $X+5" is a dangerous rule to live by, and terrible advice. Obscuring costs is not an upside unless you're very sure that your reaction to them was irrational to begin with.