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Comment author: RichardKennaway 15 July 2013 09:08:50AM 1 point [-]

Surprisingly difficult if you've been trained to be "nice".

Sucks to be that person. Solution! Don't be that person!

Comment author: wedrifid 15 July 2013 09:35:57AM *  8 points [-]

Sucks to be that person. Solution! Don't be that person!

Or, more precisely, if you are that person then do the personality development needed to remove the undesirable aspects of that social conditioning.

(You can not control others behaviour in the past. Unless they are extraordinarily good predictors, in which case by all means wreak acausal havoc upon them to prevent their to-be-counterfactual toxic training.)

Comment author: RichardKennaway 15 July 2013 09:48:59AM 0 points [-]

Yes, that is precisely the meaning I intended.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 July 2013 06:21:52PM 1 point [-]

I'm amazed.

I've been furious at the way you apparently discounted the work it takes to get over niceness conditioning, and the only reason I haven't been on your case about it is that I was distracted by wanting to be nasty-- but I lack the practice at flaming people.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 15 July 2013 08:13:48PM 2 points [-]

Both nice and nasty are errors, although I can imagine nasty being useful as a learning exercise on the way to curing oneself of niceness.

I didn't mean to belittle the effort (although that is a fair reading of what I wrote). Just to say that that is the task to be done, and the thing to do is to do it, whatever effort it takes. aelephant's comment above, that's what I would call dismissive.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 July 2013 09:29:35PM 5 points [-]

Thanks for saying it was a fair reading.

I'm not sure why I found your comment that much more annoying than aelephant's. I have a hot button about being given direct orders about my internal states, so that might be it.

It's possible that practicing niceness could be a learning exercise on the way to curing nastiness, too, but we're both guessing.