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CAE_Jones comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 24, chapter 95 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: CAE_Jones 18 July 2013 03:59:45AM -2 points [-]

I started typing a comment on Eliezer's Facebook post about people not believing in their future selves, and was hartily distracted, and it turned into an HPMoR comment, so instead, I'm posting it here.

I don't expect to like future me. I don't expect future me to be all that happy in general. If I could... well, I just got distracted by "have a genie" turning into "have a first year god spell" turning into "ROOT!" turning into "Wait, Harry knows the sorting hat was willing to tell him secrets of its creation, and now he knows how to summon it... would he memorize the spell / believe it a reasonable thing to use the hat for given how their last conversation went?" ... Future me is probably going to be annoyed at present me for getting distracted from the problem of making his existence more desirable by an eight hundred year old hat. I fail at commenting forever, apparently.

Comment author: atorm 18 July 2013 05:23:45PM 3 points [-]

Didn't the Hat demand never to be put on Harry again?

Comment author: CAE_Jones 18 July 2013 05:27:54PM 2 points [-]

That sounds right. Also, the hat observed that Harry is highly unlikely to consider it ethical to risk providing the hat with self awareness again, which is to say, he'd probably be reluctant to try it before exhausting other avenues first.

Comment author: ikrase 18 July 2013 06:10:14PM 3 points [-]

Harry has changed a lot though, and is potentially more brutally consequentialist.

Comment author: mare-of-night 20 July 2013 02:22:59AM 0 points [-]

I wonder if he could use some kind of mind magic to prevent himself from thinking about self awareness while wearing it?

Comment author: CAE_Jones 18 July 2013 01:57:35PM 1 point [-]

Judging by the downvotes, the last sentence was indeed correct.

Absurd stylings aside, I do wonder if the sorting hat doesn't have the ability to circumvent the interdict of Merlin, and whether or not Harry's exposure to the spell Fred Weasley used to summon it is sufficient that he could replicate it and ask it for those secrets he missed out on in chapter 10. He did ask Dumbledore about the sword (and the heir of Gryffendore and such), so I'm not sure if this falls into the category of resources he hasn't considered, or resources he has decided not worth pursuing.