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Vaniver comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 24, chapter 95 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Vaniver 18 July 2013 05:22:26AM *  2 points [-]

Hmmm. So, I suspect that Quirrelmort is back to regular Quirrel, though whether that is temporary or permanent remains to be seen. (Rereading it, from the dialogue it looks temporary.)

Comment author: CAE_Jones 18 July 2013 05:32:49AM 1 point [-]

I get the impression from the Defense Professor's dialog that it probably isn't permanent, but the way he hesitated before saying good day makes me wonder if even he is unsure about that after that last star spell.

I was also pleased to see that ZOMBIE! Quirrel still has the cognitive capacity necessary to crawl back toward the castle from the depths of the permitted forest. Although that's probably not that great; it'll probably suck to be the real Quirinus Quirrell very soon, and if he's had to be aware of all the further suckitude over the past year, that would probably have a net negative in utility.

For the past week or so, I've been occasionally imagining Harry running off after some important Voldemort event, and stumbling across the dead or dying Quirrell, just before coming across Voldy's new body, and being all concerned/confused in the few seconds it takes for him to figure out what's been going on. Considering that Quirrellmort is not an idiot, I kinda doubt this would play out like this (I'm imagining it at a graveyard, even), but it seems like we're close to the real Quirrell making some appearances, such as the one in this chapter.

Comment author: ChrisHallquist 18 July 2013 08:11:01AM 16 points [-]

Appearances by the real Quirrell? My impression is that the crawling zombie is the real Quirrell. Early in the story, Quirrell's non-Voldemort mode is a weirdo, but passable as a normal human. Since then, things have gotten steadily worse. My guess is that the dark magic Voldemort is using to possess Quirrell's body takes a heavy toll on the victim of the possession, with damage accumulating over time, and by the end of the Hogwarts school year, Voldemort will no longer be able to use the body and the real Quirrell will be dead or at least a vegetable.

Comment author: CAE_Jones 18 July 2013 11:11:49AM 1 point [-]

Agreed (I get the impression this was how it was supposed to work in canon as well, with the chief difference being that Voldemort was much weaker and avoided taking direct control, so Quirrell was still capable of attempting wandless magic by the end of the year). I'm actually a little curious as to whether or not the unicorn blood detail has any relevance to HPMoR, but it hasn't been mentioned yet that I remember, so probably not.

Comment author: fractalman 20 July 2013 09:48:13PM 0 points [-]

it MIGHT be the glint of silver in chapter 1. maybe. :shrugs: