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Comment author: maia 22 September 2013 11:21:46PM 2 points [-]

Have you read Feeling Good, or any other books on cognitive therapy?

I've found that thinking of my mental phenomena in terms of words like "insecurity" and "learned inhibition of feelings" and finding the root causes of my emotions based on my childhood and so on... doesn't really help very much with feelings of insecurity/anxiety, but that cognitive therapy techniques do help some.

Also, cognitive therapy has been shown scientifically to work well in a lot of people. I'm skeptical of a lot of other therapy techniques, because many are not as well tested; not that I'm against trying things and finding what works for you, but it is probably a good idea to try the most well-proven techniques first.

Comment author: ILikeLogic 24 September 2013 01:47:21AM 0 points [-]

I'm not a fan of congitive therapy. I tried it for a while and it worked ok at times but I believe that it is impractical in the long run. Its using your cognitive mind to 'fight' against conditioned emotional responses. It can work as long as you spend a lot of cognitive effort on the cause. Eventually I grew tired of the effort and it wasn't really all that effective. My goal is to discover how to decondition the learned emotional responses.

Comment author: Zaine 23 September 2013 12:46:09AM *  0 points [-]

Perhaps I've misunderstood the post, but it seems like they are doing a variant of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy; id est, they are identifying problem thought areas and attempting to change them during activation.

Comment author: ILikeLogic 24 September 2013 01:44:49AM 0 points [-]

Yes. Activation is the key. The synapses that code the learned emotional responses have a period after which they have been activated during which they can be changed. If no disconfirming or contradictory experience takes place they will be re-consolidated. But if a disconfirm experience takes place in that window they will not. That is the theory and there is some good animal research to support it.

Comment author: Zaine 24 September 2013 02:02:21AM *  1 point [-]

Note that this period is extremely time sensitive, and, depending upon when changes occur, determines whether the strength of the connection will be increased or decreased. For anyone interested in a technical explanation of this theory of memory, vide - particularly the sky blue side bars on the left. Although not believed the whole territory, it, to about half of convention-going neuroscientists, comprises a large part of the current map.