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Comment author: PedroCarvalho 24 July 2013 06:05:39AM 8 points [-]

So, I just moved to Europe for two years and finally got finantial independence from my (somewhat) Catholic parents and I want to sign up for cryonics. Is there international coverage? Is there anything I should be aware of? Are there any steps I should be taking?

Comment author: shminux 26 July 2013 09:07:22PM *  4 points [-]

Alcor UK exists. Also, do you count Moscow, Russia as Europe? Then consider KrioRus.

Comment author: Ben_LandauTaylor 26 July 2013 08:54:28PM *  2 points [-]

It looks like there are no non-US-based providers. Alcor has some information, but the situation doesn't look good. You won't get treated by a perfusion team or anything. Instead they'll try to convince local coroners to literally just freeze you with dry ice and ship you to Arizona for storage, which is incredibly destructive for the obvious reasons, and that's if the locals even cooperate. Not worth the money, IMO. (I say that as a current Alcor member living in the US.) I haven't checked CI's practices, but they're unlikely to be better.

Steps you can take:

—Sign up with a US-based provider

—If you become terminally ill, move to the US

—Don't die suddenly

Comment author: PedroCarvalho 27 July 2013 06:12:44AM 1 point [-]

Well, I'm in France (Palaiseau, near Paris) right now, and I'm going to spend two years here. Then I'm returning to Brazil, which makes my prospects even worse? x.x'' From what I've read of CI it's pretty much the same, spending money on having a coroner put you in a bag of ice and ship you to the US... --- Yes I expect I'll do that. --- The US government would have to be a lot more receptive of Brazilians for a terminally ill one to simply be able to move and die there (I'm not sure how much their foreign policies have been changing these past few years, though...) --- I'm pretty sure if anyone could actually predict and prevent that most people wouldn't sign up with any cryonics institute until right before they got terminally ill or very old and cryonics wouldn't be there.

Comment author: [deleted] 27 July 2013 08:37:15PM 0 points [-]

I'm pretty sure if anyone could actually predict and prevent that most people wouldn't sign up with any cryonics institute until right before they got terminally ill or very old and cryonics wouldn't be there.

Fact is, the more likely you are to die soon the more your life insurance will cost.