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Question: where can I upload jailbroken PDFs that is public & Google-visible?
For a job, I compiled ~100MB of lipreading research, some of them extremely obscure & hard to find (I also have some Japanese literature PDFs in a similar situation); while I have no personal interest in the topic and do not want to host indefinitely the PDFs on gwern.net, I feel it would be a massive waste to simply delete them.
I cannot simply put them in a Dropbox public folder because they wouldn't show up in Google, and Scribd is an abomination I despise.
(crosspost from Google+)
wordpress.com has 3gb quota and pdfs are visible to google.
Interesting. I am giving it a try at http://gwern0.wordpress.com/ . We'll see in a month if any of the PDFs show up in Google.
Where are the links to the documents?
I don't know. I uploaded the PDFs and 'attached' them to a post. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do beyond that.
How to use wordpress to upload and publicize files:
Files show up at gwern0.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/original_name.
There's also an "attachment page" at gwern0.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=##, but only after you publish the associated post, while the file is immediately world readable after upload, just secret.
To get wordpress to populate the post with links:
I see, thanks. It looks like that works - I see PDF links in both posts now.
OK, now I can find the links, but can google? It's not supposed to follow links from LW. I think WP advertises new accounts somewhere, but I don't think it's worth much. I suggest you link to it from gwern.net and/or google plus. Also that you link to your google drive public folder.
(I predict that if you don't link to the WP page, google will eventually find it and index it, but not index the pdfs. So if someone searches for the title of the article, google will produce the hit, but google scholar won't have it. And "eventually" might be more than month.)
So, I just opened up the WP blog and did Scholar searches for 3 or 4 of the lipreading PDFs. Not a single hit.
We'll see in a month.
Let me get back to you about wordpress, but I wonder if this explains why google drive didn't work for you, when it did work for WB? Google could find everything on the google drive, unlike wp, but maybe they only look via links.
Hm? As far as I can tell, the worst thing they do is sometimes charge users to access older uploaded documents. They have to make money somehow. Would you rather them insert full-page ads in documents the way YouTube now plays ads before video clips?
Anyway, one idea is to find people who run sites on topics related to the PDFs and suggest that they upload them to their sites. Should increase the google juice of both the documents and the sites of those who upload them, so win/win, right?
Money which they have zero right to collect and which breaks the implied contract they had with their previous users who uploaded those documents.
And their interface is butt-ugly with PDFs completely unreadable in their HTML version - but of course they don't let you download the PDFs because they're all behind the Scribd paywall.
Hosting documents. A pretty simple task, one would think, and yet Scribd manages to do it both scuzzily and poorly.
A fully-general excuse. But they are not owed a living.
I'd guess Google Drive.
You could get a website that points to wherever the download actually is.
That's one of the suggestions on G+ too. I didn't think that they would show up in Google proper and get indexed, but someone said they had for him, so maybe I will go with that. (Even if it doesn't work, I can always redownload and upload somewhere else, presumably.)
I'm currently trying http://pdf.yt/ for PDF hosting. It seems to talk the talk.