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Lumifer comments on More "Stupid" Questions - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 06 August 2013 09:19:17PM *  4 points [-]

Well, I am not sure I had do any particular self-convincing, that's just the way I naturally feel.

Basically, I know that I'm not the best in the world by pretty much any criteria -- there are people smarter than me, stronger than me, richer than me, etc. etc. But then, why should that matter? I am not in a competition with these people. We are not fighting over some resources. Let's assume I have some global rank in, say, smartness -- if my rank changes will it affect my life in any way? No, it won't.

Things are different in a local context -- maybe you want to win the affections of a particular girl or a boy. Maybe you entered a sports tournament. Maybe you want to get into a particularly selective school. In these cases I care about how I compare to others in the same local context -- because whether my ranking is high or low will directly affect outcomes that are meaningful to me.

But globally -- meh. I don't care that there are thousands of people who understand quantum physics much better than I do. So what?

I suspect it ultimately boils down to the issue of self-worth. Do you consider yourself worthy because you're better than someone? Or do you consider yourself worthy just because you are?

Comment author: Bayeslisk 06 August 2013 10:10:55PM *  1 point [-]

As it turns out, I consider myself worthy only when I'm better than someone, which sometimes takes the form of being able to help others, exert control over situations, or solve problems myself. This tends to spiral into feeling (self-)loathing when reading about some fictional people - Lazarus Long is a good example. At the moment, mental issues prevent me from consistently feeling worthy just for existing.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 August 2013 10:42:27PM *  2 points [-]

I consider myself worthy only when I'm better than someone

There alwaysยน is someone somewhere worse than you.


  1. i.e., about 99.99999998% of the times.
Comment author: Bayeslisk 07 August 2013 12:32:35AM 0 points [-]

That's really not the point. It's because it's so common and so easy to be worse than me that I don't really take notice. Yes, I am aware that there is a critical error in thinking that, and then worrying about not being very good. I am attempting to resolve it.