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Bayeslisk comments on Open thread, August 5-11, 2013 - Less Wrong Discussion

3 Post author: David_Gerard 05 August 2013 06:50AM

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Comment author: Emile 06 August 2013 09:34:00AM *  9 points [-]

You might want to distinguish

  • Wishing that person X would behave otherwise
  • Being glad if person X suffers
  • Believing that making person X suffer will cause them to behave otherwise
  • The world will be a better place if person X would behave otherwise
  • The world will be a better place if person X suffers

Plenty of people seem glad to hear about other people suffering regardless of whether it has any plausible chances of causing behavior change. Just look at any countries that hate each other (Japan vs. pretty much the rest of East Asia), political opponents ("far-blue political leader breaks his leg; far-green partisans celebrate!"), etc. Your case here doesn't seem particularly different.

Comment author: Bayeslisk 06 August 2013 03:14:19PM 9 points [-]

I hadn't been aware that those five things were so badly tangled up for me. This and another comment here are making me reevaluate my categories for why something should be weighted negatively for me. Let me get back to you when I've had a chance to think a little.