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Comment author: gothgirl420666 06 August 2013 01:41:18AM *  -2 points [-]

Feminism is what you get when you assume that all gender differences are due to society. The manosphere/"red pill"/whatever is what you get when you assume that all gender differences are due to biology. Normal-reasonable-person-ism is what you get when you take into account the fact that we're not sure yet.

Does this theory (or parts of it) seem true to you?

Comment author: Randy_M 07 August 2013 03:39:57PM *  2 points [-]

Feminism is: "Society has gone too far in accomodating men (more often than not, or in more important areas)." Some might say that this is due to innate differences that were never addressed; some might say it is due to cultural norms that inculcate different tendencies which disadvantages women.

"Male Reaction" (to coin a term) is: "Society has gone too far in accomodating women (with the same caveat)." In either case, some adherents will say the ideal end state is legal and social equality, and some will say the ideal end state is legal or cultural accommodations to overcome natural differences.

Normal person view is: There are not large enough gender specific problems for me to be an activist about it.

No one assumes all differences are bio or all cultural, but there is a lot of dispute for where the border is of course.