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I commit to donating $50 to MIRI if EY or lukeprog watch this 4:15 video and comment about their immediate reaction.
Anyone else, feel free to raise the donation pool; get your fill of drama entertainment and assuage your guilty conscience with a donation!
I'll take the money. :)
IIRC this is a troll that followed me over from Common Sense Atheism. That video and a few others are fairly creepy, but The Ballad of Big Yud is actually kinda fun.
I watched it. It is either a skilled ventriloquist or a mediocre dubber performing a poorly-written conversation between himself and a sock puppet of Eliezer on the subject of his dissatisfaction with how Eliezer manages interactions with assorted people. There are terrible and badly-constructed puns. If either of the named parties value their time at less than $705/hr. and expect Kawoomba to be honest, meh, go for it.
I wonder what it's like having such videos made about oneself. Edit: It's actual ventriloquy, but the puns are mostly bad (though the first one succeeds just because it's so unexpected), but the guy is dedicated (plenty of videos on his channel), and this one stands out in terms of ... dedication.
What would it be like if some puppet were supposed to represent me, in a YT video, the hypothetical isn't quite settling down on one probable outcome. Would I be worried of crazy-stalking type scenarios? Would I focus on the content? The guy making the content? Be strangely honored to even warrant that much attention even by unlikely strangers (the guy is an academic and a musician)? Etc.
So why not offset the cost of asking others to satisfy my curiosity by offering an incentive.
Edit: The $705/hr doesn't make much sense, using numbers that way creates a false sense of precision when the basis is oversimplified (not using a realistic scenario: time to write the comment, expected ancillary time spent checking the channel, reading your comment and this one, comparison with the alternative since at least one of them probably will be watching that video anyways (wouldn't you, if there were some Alicorn parody video out there?), short and long-term effects on being amenable to such requests, public relations considerations of giving publicity to bad criticism etc.).
The guy appears to be an idiot with a bee in his bonnet. I suppose Eliezer or Luke might want to watch the video just to get your $50, but what do you expect to be interesting about their response?
(I dare say he isn't an idiot "globally"; he may for all I know be very smart most of the time; but in this context he's being an idiot. There's nothing there but mockery for mockery's sake.)
I don't know how I would react to such videos being done about me, so I wonder how they would react.
For their "celebrity" status, the amount and dedication of their anti-fans stands out. I wonder what inspires such strong emotions, and such a "love to hate" dynamic.
It's that many people find them to be very interesting and intelligent on area X of their endeavors while at the same time the same people find them to go utterly off the deep end in area Y. I don't know about anyone else, but when I see a contradiction like that I find myself compelled to find more about that person or group and to try to figure them out. edit: often with a good deal of laughing or frustration which is ultimately unresolved as anything more than 'well, they just dont get it' or 'humans are nuts'
God, was this awful. Nothing like the ballad of big yud. And btw if you gave $50 just to see their reaction, I can make one such video about yourself for less than $50 so you can experience it yourself.
It's just not the same if I commission the video myself by paying you for it.
Like paid love. Or anti-love.