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NancyLebovitz comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 26, chapter 97 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 August 2013 06:20:33PM 3 points [-]

Imperius Bill Gates and a number of other wealthy people to give you 1% of their money.

Comment author: Alsadius 17 August 2013 09:43:00PM 2 points [-]

The thing about wealthy people is that they have accountants. Also, their assets are generally in the stock of companies they own, which means that they'd have to sell shares, which in turn triggers reams of insider-trading paperwork and income tax audits. You'd do better to do Time-Turner work on the LSE.

Comment author: Baughn 18 August 2013 10:58:46AM *  1 point [-]

Time-Turner work on the LSE.

Now, how did I miss that possibility?

Harry's stinking rich anytime he wants, then.

Comment author: Aureateflux 19 August 2013 04:10:37AM 0 points [-]

Except that observed information can't be changed using the Time-Turners. So the scope of his actions are somewhat limited. Doesn't stop him from being able to short a stock, but he can't single-handedly cause a stock's fortune to reverse. That still leaves plenty of possibilities to make money, but it wouldn't be as easy as it sounds. He'd be mixing the complicated natures of stock trading and time travel, and that's before he starts thinking about avoiding insider trading laws.

Comment author: Baughn 19 August 2013 12:59:41PM 2 points [-]

It's pretty easy, isn't it?

Check the exchange status, go back in time, buy stocks that are about to go up in price. He can't stop them from going up in price, sure, but him buying is perfectly consistent. I expect he could get a few percent per day without even trying hard.

Comment author: Aureateflux 19 August 2013 03:39:17PM 0 points [-]

That's true, but to make the REALLY big bucks, you need to make the bet no one else does a la Trading Places.

Comment author: Baughn 19 August 2013 06:45:59PM 2 points [-]

5% per day is already a 54 million-fold increase per year, what more do you want? ^^;;

Comment author: Aureateflux 20 August 2013 01:31:29AM 0 points [-]

Entirely the wrong question. Harry Potter is planning on taking over both the Muggle and Magical world. That's going to take some capital!

Comment author: Velorien 20 August 2013 03:15:32PM 2 points [-]

That's going to take some capital!

What world domination process are you imagining? Money doesn't buy you power. It buys you bribes, and lobby groups, and campaign funds, and mercenaries for coups, and so on. With some creative thinking, any and all of those should be obtainable through a combination of magic, blackmail, manipulating the weak-minded, and other means already at Harry's disposal (especially if he has someone like Draco to supplement the latter).

Comment author: Aureateflux 21 August 2013 02:40:46AM 2 points [-]

You sound like you think he doesn't need capital at all. Why would Harry avoid using a resource that would facilitate reaching his goals? Wouldn't the rational thing to do be to use the methods that accomplish your goals in an effective and timely manner?

There are times when solutions other than money would be more effective, and there are times when money would be more effective or efficient. So why should he eschew that resource just because he can?