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John_Spickes comments on Open thread, August 26 - September 1, 2013 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: John_Spickes 28 August 2013 08:11:42PM 2 points [-]

Another managed to learn to detach himself emotionally from whatever is going on at the meetings, by treating his family as low-level NPCs . . .

Do you know where I might find information about implementing this technique? It sounds really useful. Did your friend follow some methodology for accomplishing this?

Comment author: Lumifer 28 August 2013 08:30:10PM 4 points [-]

Keep in mind that the definition of a sociopath is more or less "one who treats other people as low-level NPCs".

Comment author: John_Spickes 28 August 2013 08:44:12PM 3 points [-]

Point well taken! However, this still seems like a potentially useful skill to have when you must interact with someone but wish to defend yourself emotionally.

Comment author: patrickmclaren 29 August 2013 04:07:15PM *  2 points [-]

Indeed, and people would do well to remember that there may be situations wherein you are in fact the relatively "low-level NPC".

Comment author: shminux 29 August 2013 04:56:09PM *  -1 points [-]

Also known as "the mark". The good news is that you are rarely aware of being one.

Comment author: Lumifer 29 August 2013 08:47:50PM 2 points [-]

I am not sure this is good news from the standpoint of consequences...

Comment author: shminux 29 August 2013 04:54:38PM 2 points [-]

I don't know of any sources he used. This is one of those hard self-modifications that require highly developed emotional intelligence and introspection skills.

I know that when I tried to do something like that (not getting annoyed at a person for constantly bringing up the same settled point over and over for years), I failed. Basically, the feeling of annoyance flares up before I have a chance to consciously deconstruct it. I managed to quell it quicker, but not prevent it from happening. I tried preparing myself for the situation in advance, but that only made it worse, as I would get annoyed and upset during the simulation, as well. Actually alieving that a person close to you is basically a moist robot is hard.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 15 September 2013 08:22:50AM 0 points [-]

Might it help to think of the person as running on habit about a particular subject or in response to a particular stimulus rather than them being pseudo-conscious in general?