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Nornagest comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 27, chapter 98 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Nornagest 28 August 2013 09:02:51PM *  0 points [-]

A nuclear device was the first thing I thought of as well, but I'd expect obtaining the parts to be prohibitively difficult for any plausible contacts. Stealing a finished warhead would probably be easier. But it's not that much easier, and either way I can't think of any plausible motive: the wizarding world and the Muggle world are so intertwined that MAD is quite problematic. Nor are there many plausible targets; the wizarding population is so spread out that a single warhead couldn't do much that couldn't be done far more easily, less disruptively, and with less collateral damage using a truck full of ANFO or something. Azkaban may be one; I can't think of any others.

On the other hand, Muggle weapons or controlled substances of some kind (perhaps dangerous chemicals?) seem quite likely. Britain's a wealthy first-world country with plenty of international trade going on; if you've got enough money on hand, about the only reason you'd need to leave the country to get something is if it's not legally for sale.

Comment author: DanArmak 28 August 2013 09:11:22PM 3 points [-]

Azkaban may be one

That would kill the prisoners and the guards, and would not destroy the Dementors.

Comment author: fractalman 02 September 2013 12:15:04AM 0 points [-]

...a last ditch effort to at least make their deaths quick, while opening up a window to hit the dementors with a point-blank patronus 2.0 without worrying about the guards? Not that I think it very likely, mind you. harry may be broadening his options somewhat, but he has a ways to go before he's quite THAT desperate.

Comment author: Nornagest 28 August 2013 09:14:26PM 0 points [-]

At this point I don't think Harry would consider the guards protected by his ethics, and I'm not sure about the prisoners. The Dementors are indeed a problem.

I don't actually consider this a good option, though, just less bad than all the other targets in magical Britain.

Comment author: DanArmak 28 August 2013 09:41:32PM 10 points [-]

If you kill the prisoners, and you don't harm the Dementors, what's the point of attacking at all? The idea is to rescue the prisoners and destroy the prison, and the prison is just the Dementors - a non-magical building is easy to replace.

Comment author: TobyBartels 31 August 2013 09:38:01PM 1 point [-]

It's not a non-magical building; it has several protective wards, such as the time-loop prohibition. But otherwise, I agree with you.