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2 Post author: Vaniver 28 August 2013 07:29PM

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Comment author: Document 16 September 2013 09:15:38AM *  -1 points [-]

The incantation "Crucio" seems to be a reference to Roman crucifixion, which postdates Atlantis by several thousand years according to Plato's dating. There are probably lots of other examples of recent words in magic.

Comment author: Velorien 17 September 2013 12:16:00PM 2 points [-]

Could you clarify what point you are trying to make with this observation?

As for trying to draw inferences from canon incantations, that way madness lies. It seems beyond reasonable doubt that JK Rowling just used pseudo-Latinish words that fit the desired meaning, as is not unusual for a certain kind of children's fantasy story. There's little to indicate that she chose them based on some deeper historical or other reasoning.

For what it's worth, the Harry Potter Wiki claims that the Cruciatus Curse was invented in the Early Middle Ages, though it does not cite its sources.

Comment author: Document 17 September 2013 04:42:46PM 0 points [-]

I thought that in MoR there'd been no way to invent new spells since Atlantis; but I haven't read it in a while, so I could be confused.

Comment author: Velorien 18 September 2013 12:33:17PM 2 points [-]

I'm afraid you are. There are numerous references to new spells - for example, Flitwick's hex which he taught to Harry for the purpose of beating Moody.