It is good to try to help people.
Hi, I'm new to LessWrong and haven't read the morality sequence and haven't read many arguments for effective altruism, so could you elaborate on this sentiment?
I agree with this kind of movement because intuitively it feels really good to help people and it feels really bad to know that people or animals are suffering. I think it's quite certain that there other minds similar to mine and these minds are capable of same kind of feelings that I am. I wouldn't want other people to feel the same kind of bad feelings that I have sometimes felt, but I know there are minds who experience more than a million times the worst pain I've ever felt.
Still, there are some people, who think rationality is about always thinking about only one's own well-being, who might disagree with this. They might say, that the well-being of other minds doesn't affect your mind directly. So if you don't know about it, it's irrelevant to you. Some of these people may also try to minimize the effect of the natural empathy by acknowledging that the being who is suffering is different from you. They could be your enemies or someone who is not "worth" your efforts. It's easier to cope with the fact that an animal who belongs into a different species is suffering than someone in your family. Or consider someone who has a different skin color and whose people behave strangely and who sometimes have violent and "primitive" habits are suffering on the other side of the world (note, this is not what I think, but what I've heard other people say... they basically think some people are a bit like the baby eating aliens) - are their suffering worth less? Intuitively it feels that way because they don't belong into your tribe. Anyway, these minds are still capable of same kind of suffering.
The question still stands, if someone is "rationally" interested in one's own well-being only, and if someone only cares about other minds to the extent of how they affect your own mind through the natural empathy reflex, then why should they be interested in the well-being of other minds purely for the sake of their well-being? Shouldn't they only be interested in how the suffering of the other minds affects your own mind?
Hi, welcome to LW! I will reply to your comments here in one place, instead of each of them separately.
Do you mean I should only post there until I mature enough that I can post here?
No. It is okay to ask, and it is also okay to disagree. Just choose a proper place. For example, this is an article about "explaining hard ideas with simple words", therefore this discussion being here is quickly getting off-topic. You are not speaking about explaining effective atruism using simple words, but about misconceptions people have about rationality an...
xkcd's Up-Goer Five comic gave technical specifications for the Saturn V rocket using only the 1,000 most common words in the English language.
This seemed to me and Briénne to be a really fun exercise, both for tabooing one's words and for communicating difficult concepts to laypeople. So why not make a game out of it? Pick any tough, important, or interesting argument or idea, and use this text editor to try to describe what you have in mind with extremely common words only.
This is challenging, so if you almost succeed and want to share your results, you can mark words where you had to cheat in *italics*. Bonus points if your explanation is actually useful for gaining a deeper understanding of the idea, or for teaching it, in the spirit of Gödel's Second Incompleteness Theorem Explained in Words of One Syllable.
As an example, here's my attempt to capture the five theses using only top-thousand words:
If you make a really strong computer and it is not very nice, you will not go to space today.
Other ideas to start with: agent, akrasia, Bayes' theorem, Bayesianism, CFAR, cognitive bias, consequentialism, deontology, effective altruism, Everett-style ('Many Worlds') interpretations of quantum mechanics, entropy, evolution, the Great Reductionist Thesis, halting problem, humanism, law of nature, LessWrong, logic, mathematics, the measurement problem, MIRI, Newcomb's problem, Newton's laws of motion, optimization, Pascal's wager, philosophy, preference, proof, rationality, religion, science, Shannon information, signaling, the simulation argument, singularity, sociopathy, the supernatural, superposition, time, timeless decision theory, transfinite numbers, Turing machine, utilitarianism, validity and soundness, virtue ethics, VNM-utility