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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 13 September 2013 12:07:44PM *  2 points [-]

25% of test subjects show sadistic tendencies.

I'm surprised it's as low as 25%, but they only tested for liking to hurt insects. I suspect that the proportion would be a good bit higher for liking to hurt mammals, and likewise for liking to hurt low-status humans, and possibly for liking to lower the status of high-status humans.

Implications for CEV?

Comment author: niceguyanon 13 September 2013 05:50:40PM 1 point [-]

I'm surprised it's as low as 25%

Depending on what your cut off point is for sadism that number could be a lot higher. There are also what could be called passive sadist, those that would not actively take a role in sadistic acts but are quite entertained by it. I suspect most people who watch bull fighting would be physically repulsed at the thought of actually stabbing a live animal with a blade, but they sure can watch it. Also, the popularity of videos griefing online gamer lend me to believe many people enjoy this type of mischief.

Comment author: wedrifid 13 September 2013 12:15:27PM *  1 point [-]

I'm surprised it's as low as 25%, but they only tested for liking to hurt insects. I suspect that the proportion would be a good bit higher for liking to hurt mammals, and likewise for liking to hurt low-status humans, and possibly for liking to lower the status of high-status humans.

Calling the last one or two 'sadistic' would be something of a stretch. The impulse to lower the status of another seems rather independent of sadism. That seems to be a straightforward social politics heuristic.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 13 September 2013 12:24:17PM 1 point [-]

You lower people's status by hurting them, especially by hurting them and getting away with it. I think people show evidence of pleasure in doing so.

After all, if there's a lot of a behavior, it's likely to either cause pleasure or relieve pain.

Comment author: drethelin 13 September 2013 07:16:14PM 0 points [-]

This is why we need nonfeeling robots we can kick around