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-13 Post author: PhilGoetz 21 September 2013 01:53AM

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 21 September 2013 07:41:49PM 2 points [-]

It is not complaining about the two-party system. It is about a much more general phenomenon, found widely in academia. It is important to note that in any domain, whenever you reduce the number of alternatives to two, it sets the stage for vicious partisanship. I happen to think it's a very important point.

The post isn't sarcastic; it's humorous, taking on the persona of a Dark Arts instructor.

Comment author: RobbBB 22 September 2013 12:06:54AM *  2 points [-]

It is important to note that in any domain, whenever you reduce the number of alternatives to two, it sets the stage for vicious partisanship.

Only a sith would think that only a sith deals in absolutes. I reject your absolutist opposition to absolutes.

Sometimes there really are just two choices. Dualisms get a bad rap.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 21 September 2013 11:36:45PM 1 point [-]

whenever you reduce the number of alternatives to two, it sets the stage for vicious partisanship.

So that step one in the Light Arts is to increase the alternatives?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 September 2013 07:25:53PM 0 points [-]

Dunno about "step one" or "Light Arts", but that's usually among my first responses to being offered a forced choice between A and B... what are the alternatives that aren't being considered?

Not so much to avoid vicious partisanship... people can be viciously partisan for their side no matter how many competing sides there are... but because it's hard to consider the merits of options that have been arbitrarily excluded from consideration, and those options often prove viable when their merits are considered.

I am especially prone to this for subjects where certain positions have become popular tribal markers.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 21 September 2013 08:39:31PM 1 point [-]

Could you give academic examples?