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Comment author: RomeoStevens 26 September 2013 01:12:16AM *  0 points [-]

Non-violent communication is the intellectual heir of E-prime which was the heir of semantic concerns in General Semantics. Recent books on the subject are well reviewed. It is a useful tool in communicating across large value rifts.

Comment author: ChristianKl 26 September 2013 01:44:38PM *  2 points [-]

Non-violent communication is the intellectual heir of E-prime which was the heir of semantic concerns in General Semantics.

I don't think it makes sense to speak of a single framework as the heir of General Semantics. General Semantics influenced quite a lot.

General Semantics itself is quite complex. Nonviolent communication is pretty useless when you want to speak about scientific knowledge. General Semantics notions of thinking about relations and structure are on the other hand are quite useful.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 27 September 2013 10:43:30PM 0 points [-]

Does Rosenberg cite Bourland (or Korzybski) anywhere? I thought these were independent inventions that happened upon some tangential ideas about non-judgmental thinking.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 28 September 2013 01:26:15AM 0 points [-]

I had thought that there was a link in someone Rosenberg worked with developing it but now I can't find anything. The elimination of the "to-be" verb forms does not seem explicit in NVC methodology. I think you are correct and they are independent.