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Coscott comments on Bayesian probability as an approximate theory of uncertainty? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Coscott 26 September 2013 06:17:53PM 1 point [-]

I have also been having suspicions that I might have some issues with standard Bayesian probability. Specifically, I have been trying to see if I can do decision theory without defining probability theory, then define probabilities from decision theory. I will likely share my results in the near future.

Comment author: pragmatist 26 September 2013 09:29:26PM 7 points [-]

Are you familiar with Leonard Savage's representation theorem? It sounds like what you're trying to do is pretty similar, so if you're unaware of Savage's work you might want to look into it, just to make sure you don't waste time retreading territory that has already been explored.

Also relevant: David Wallace's work on recovering the quantum mechanical Born probabilities from decision theory.

Comment author: Coscott 26 September 2013 09:51:39PM 1 point [-]

Thank you. I have not seen that theorem, and this is very helpful and interesting. It is incredibly similar to what I was doing. I strongly encourage anyone reading this to vote up pragmatist's comment.

Comment author: cousin_it 27 September 2013 11:32:02AM *  2 points [-]

I think most LWers working on these topics are already aware of Savage's approach. It doesn't work on AMD-like problems.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 27 September 2013 01:52:06PM 0 points [-]

Are there any posts describing what goes wrong?

Comment author: cousin_it 27 September 2013 02:28:30PM *  1 point [-]

Piccione's paper, mentioned in Wei's post on AMD, says:

Savage's theory views a state as a description of a scenario which is independent of the act. In contrast, "being at the second intersection" is a state which is not independent from the action taken at the first, and, consequently, at the second intersection.