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There is too much unwarranted emphasis on ketosis when it comes to Keto diets, rather than hunger satiation. That might sound like a weird claim since the diet is named after ketosis, but when it comes to the efficacy of the Keto diet for weight loss with no regard to potential health or cognitive effects, ketosis has little to do with weight loss. Most attempts to explain the Keto diet almost always starts with an explanation on what ketosis is with an emphasis on attaining ketosis rather than hunger satiation and caloric deficit. Here is intro excerpt from reddit's r/keto:
Even on Lesswrong, discussions of keto, again puts too much emphasis on ketosis. Here is an top level comment in the solved problems repository:
The vast majority of people on the keto diet and losing weight are also eating less calories and feeling fuller, regardless if the body is going through ketosis or not. To the credit of r/keto there are many there that recognize the keto diet for what it is, but there is still a schism between those that see keto as a neat little hack to eat less, and those that see ketosis as the goal. In short, baring any health benefits of macro composition of your diet, ketosis in and of itself is not necessary to lose weight.
For the vast majority of people's physiology and physique goals, the most efficient thing to do is to find ways for you to best eat less and feel full. Some people use keto, some use intermittent fasting, some use both. I find that intermittent fasting is the least bullshity diet and most honest about how it works – restricted feeding times leads to less chances of over eating, long fasting times decrease hunger pangs, and satisfaction of full "stuffed" feeling of satiety.
Edit: Not bashing Keto, just wished people would focus more on health benefits of keto and efficacy of high protein diets to keep one satiated, rather than an emphasis on ketosis in and of itself.
http://examine.com/faq/what-should-i-eat-for-weight-loss.html#ref3
That is true. However for many people "health benefits" beyond and above losing weight are a major advantage of keto diets.
Losing weight isn't be-all end-all of the way you eat.
Yea that is why I maintain a keto-esque diet, because I believe in the long term effects of reduced consumption of processed carbs and high glycemic index foods.
An analysis of the front page of r/keto only results in one post about positive health/cognitive effects, almost every post has to do with "look at how much weight I lost", which is a shame because you're right when you say that Losing weight isn't the be-all end-all of the way your eat.