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ChristianKl comments on Open Thread, October 7 - October 12, 2013 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ChristianKl 13 October 2013 12:08:35AM 0 points [-]

Whoa, do you have a source on that? In the US, I think a lot of people take civil liberties very seriously. We don't dole out freedoms for a specific purpose, we assume we have freedoms unless there is a compelling reason to take them away.

When it comes to doling out freedoms that historically means in the US the rights that God gave men. I don't think many Christian would say that God gave men the right to enjoy child pornography but democratic society took that right away from men to reduce the amount of child abuse by pedophiles.

I also don't think you can reasonable argue that the founding fathers had in mind to protect child pornography when they wrote the first amendment.

To turn to the present, given the current way the US works saying that it's citizens value civil liberties it sounds like a joke.

A lot of people here count themselves as utilitarian. The idea of civil liberties is nice but for most people it's an means to an end and not an end in itself.