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Comment author: hyporational 20 October 2013 12:58:01PM 0 points [-]

I agree that being slippery and vague is usually bad, and one way to employ Dark Arts.

However, avoiding qualifiers of uncertainty and not softening one's statements at all exposes oneself to other kinds of dark arts. Even here, it's not reasonable to expect conversants to be mercifully impartial about everything. Someone who expects strong opposition would soften their language more than someone whose statements are noncontroversial.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 20 October 2013 02:10:14PM 0 points [-]

There's slippery, and there's vague. The one that I have not named is certainly being slippery, yet is not at all vague. It is quite clear what he is insinuating, and on close inspection, clear that he is not actually saying it.

However, avoiding qualifiers of uncertainty and not softening one's statements at all exposes oneself to other kinds of dark arts.

Qualifiers of uncertainty should be employed to the degree that one is actually uncertain, and vagueness to the degree that one's ideas are vague. In diplomacy it has been remarked that what looks like a vague statement may be a precise statement of a deliberately vague idea.