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Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 17 October 2013 09:35:31PM 1 point [-]

I think the point is that in order to resist mass surveillance, you need to restrict the individual right to record what they see fit.

Comment author: Lumifer 18 October 2013 12:04:28AM 0 points [-]

Mass surveillance is surveillance of the masses, not surveillance by the masses.

It's what NSA does, not what a bunch of Google geeks in Palo Alto do.

And the individual right to record what they see fit is subject to restrictions, of course. We can discuss what these restrictions might or should be, but that's not what I was talking about.

Comment author: ChristianKl 18 October 2013 12:49:09AM 0 points [-]

Mass surveillance is surveillance of the masses, not surveillance by the masses.

If the masses are surveilling than you also have surveillance of the masses.

Comment author: Lumifer 18 October 2013 02:08:06AM 0 points [-]

Mass surveillance -- of the masses -- is a reality right now and has been for many years.

Surveillance by the masses is a possibility that may or may not happen in the future in the form that we don't know and can only speculate about.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 18 October 2013 08:32:48AM 0 points [-]

Mass surveillance is surveillance of the masses, not surveillance by the masses.

Surveillance by the masses makes surveillance of the masses trivially easy.

Comment author: Lumifer 18 October 2013 04:29:43PM 3 points [-]

Only if the masses conveniently store all their audio and video records in locations that you can easily and cheaply access.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 21 October 2013 05:05:25PM 2 points [-]

Which they/we currently do. Generally, accessing recording and data is easy compared with recording it in the first place.