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TheOtherDave comments on Why didn't people (apparently?) understand the metaethics sequence? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: TheOtherDave 04 November 2013 06:44:32PM 0 points [-]

You certainly don't have to buy it, that's true.

But when you ask a question and someone provides an answer you don't like, showing why that answer is wrong can sometimes be more effective than simply asserting that you don't buy it.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 04 November 2013 07:25:41PM 0 points [-]

The problem is a kind of quodlibet. Any inadequate theory can be made to work if one is allowed to dismiss whatever the theory can't explain.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 05 November 2013 12:41:48AM 0 points [-]

Sure, I agree.

And any theory can be made to fail if I am allowed to demand that it explain things that don't actually exist.

So it seems to matter whether the thing I'm dismissing exists or not.

Regardless, all of this is a tangent from my point.

You asked "Why does it appear to make sense to wonder if we are valuing the right things?" as a rhetorical question, as a way of arguing that it appears to make sense because it does make sense, because the question of whether our values are right is non-empty. My point is that this is not actually why it appears to make sense; it would appear to make sense even if the question of whether our values are right were empty.

That is not proof that the question is empty, of course. All it demonstrates is that one of your arguments in defense of its non-emptiness is flawed.

You will probably do better to accept that and marshall your remaining argument-soldiers to a victorious campaign on other fronts.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 05 November 2013 09:39:29AM 1 point [-]

That is not proof that the question is empty, of course. All it demonstrates is that one of your arguments in defense of its non-emptiness is flawed.

Non-emptiness is no more flawed than emptiness. The Open Question remains open.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 05 November 2013 02:23:06PM 0 points [-]

This is a nonsequitor. My claim was about a specific argument.