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My point being that the categories themselves are not used consistently, so that I can be called either one or the other depending on usage.
Definitions tend to be theory bound themselves, so that mind dependent and mind independent are not clear cut. If I think that eating cows is fine, but I wouldn't if I knew more and thought longer, which represents my mind - both, neither, the first, the second?
For example, if you go to the article in La Wik on Ethical Subjectvism, they talk about "opinions" and not minds. In this case, my opinion would be that eating cows is fine, but it would not be my extrapolated values.
Some would call my position realism, and some would call it subjectivism. Me, I don't care what you call it. I recognize that my position could be called either within the bounds of normal usage.
Someone who believes that what is moral is universal across humans who are not psychos.
I think you're getting the point there.