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CarlShulman comments on New vs. Business-as-Usual Future - Less Wrong Discussion

2 Post author: katydee 05 November 2013 02:13AM

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Comment author: CarlShulman 05 November 2013 11:04:33AM 4 points [-]

I'm saying that the concept you're using for 'meaningful change' is a light shade of grue, looking unusual and gerrymandered to exclude huge past changes while including things like good mood-elevating drugs that are quite natural extrapolations of our expanding biological knowledge.

When we do model combination with the many alternative ways we can slice up the world for outside viewish extrapolation, with penalties for ad hoc complexity, I think the specific view that ignores all past gains in wealth, life expectancy, energy use, population, and technology but responds hugely to mood-elevating drugs carries relatively little weight in prediction for the topics you mentioned.

So I disagree with this:

Reference class forecasting seems to indicate that the business-as-usual future is quite likely.

Comment author: katydee 05 November 2013 11:15:02AM *  1 point [-]

I'm saying that the concept you're using for 'meaningful change' is a light shade of grue, looking unusual and gerrymandered to exclude huge past changes while including things like good mood-elevating drugs that are quite natural extrapolations of our expanding biological knowledge.

I understand what you are saying, but I don't understand why you consider those things interesting or relevant. To me, a concept of the human experience that includes computation or material strengths seems unusual and gerrymandered.

At this point it really does seem like we're just playing reference class tennis, though.

Comment author: CarlShulman 05 November 2013 11:36:37AM 1 point [-]

Let's leave it at that then.