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Brillyant comments on Open Thread, November 15-22, 2013 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Brillyant 18 November 2013 03:38:06PM 4 points [-]

That's...that's terrible. That it would feel worse to have a chance of resurrection than to have closure. It sounds depressingly plausible that that's people's true rejection, but I hope it's not.

In my experience, people holding on to very, very small probabilites can be unhealthy. Misplaced hope can be harmful.

Religion doesn't have the same problem, and in my experience it's because of the certainty. People believe themselves to be absolutely certain in their belief in the afterlife. So there's no closure problem, because they simply know that they'll see the person again.

I don't think it is quite this cut and dry. Religious people will assert they are certain, but I think there is a significant level of doubt there. People do use heaven as a way to cope with the loss of a loved one -- it is perfectly understandable, but I think it ultimately often prevents them from grieving and acheiving healthy and proper closure.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 22 November 2013 02:27:30AM 1 point [-]

Religious people will assert they are certain, but I think there is a significant level of doubt there.

The phrase "sure and certain hope of the resurrection" is rather telling. :)

Comment author: Nate_Gabriel 18 November 2013 08:11:00PM 0 points [-]

Ideally, how people feel about things would be based in real-world consequences, and a chance of someone being not dead is usually strictly better than the alternative. But I can see how for a small enough chance of resurrection, it could possibly be outweighed by other people holding on to it. I still hope that isn't what's going on in this case, though. That would require people to be feeling "I'd rather have this person permanently dead, because at least then I know where I stand."

Comment author: hyporational 19 November 2013 06:22:11PM 0 points [-]

That would require people to be feeling "I'd rather have this person permanently dead, because at least then I know where I stand."

That's a pretty insulting way to put it. Consider an alternative: I'll rather spend my only short life living it to the fullest than worrying about people, including me, who will very likely permanently die no matter what I do to help it.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 20 November 2013 09:03:16AM 0 points [-]

In that case, the best solution would be to let the loved person freeze and then pretty much ignore them (i.e. spend only as much thought about them as we usually spend on dead people).

Comment author: lmm 20 November 2013 10:40:52AM 0 points [-]

Sure. But self-modifying to feel differently is hard.