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Vaniver comments on Open Thread, November 23-30, 2013 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Vaniver 01 December 2013 04:08:59AM 2 points [-]

That was when the true horror of programming struck me. Years later, when I came across the famous quote by Wilkes that "I can remember the exact instant when I realized that a large part of my life from then on was going to be spent in finding mistakes in my own programs." I instantly knew it for truth.

This realization caused one of my big life mistakes, I think. It struck me in high school, and so I foolishly switched my focus from computer science to physics (I think, there might have been a subject or two in between) because I disliked debugging. Later, I realized that programming was both powerful and inescapable, and so I'd have to get over how much debugging sucked, which by then I had the emotional maturity to do (and I suspect I could have done back then, if I had also had the realization that much of my intellectual output would be programming in basically any field).

Comment author: irrational 02 December 2013 05:55:27AM 1 point [-]

I think the whole experience is also interesting on a meta-level. Since programming is essentially the same as logical reasoning, it goes to show that humans are very nearly incapable of creating long chains of reasoning without making mistakes, often extremely subtle ones. Sometimes finding them provides insight (especially in multi-threaded code or with memory manipulation), although most often it's just you failing to pay attention.

Comment author: lmm 02 December 2013 11:13:40PM 0 points [-]

Threading is not normally part of logical reasoning. Compare with mathematics, where even flawed proofs are usually (though not always) of correct results. I think a large part of the difficulty of correct programming is the immaturity of our tools.