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Comment author: Adele_L 24 November 2013 09:41:35PM 14 points [-]

I think of virtue ethics as reflecting a timeless decision theory. For example, if you use TDT to make decisions, you don't just want to decide to one-box because you heard it was cool, you want to be the kind of person who one-boxes. You are honorable if you are the kind of person who can make credible commitments. You are cooperative if you are the kind of person who cooperates in prisoner dilemmas.

Comment author: [deleted] 24 November 2013 10:54:21PM *  3 points [-]

I think of virtue ethics as reflecting a timeless decision theory. For example, if you use TDT to make decisions, you don't just want to decide to one-box because you heard it was cool, you want to be the kind of person who one-boxes.

Would that mean that you want to actually precommit to making certain choices in certain situations, or that you merely want to be predicted to do so, or are those two indistinguishable?

EDIT: I know this is rude, but whoever's downvoting, since this was my original blog post, would you mind explaining precisely how stupid or ignorant I've been? I'd really prefer higher-information signals that can point me towards where/how to learn things.

Comment author: Adele_L 24 November 2013 11:40:17PM *  3 points [-]

Actually precomitting corresponds to TDT/virtue ethics, and merely trying to be predicted to do so would correspond to something else (technically TDT is in this class, but it is a much larger class than just that).

Comment author: JoshuaZ 25 November 2013 01:53:09AM 1 point [-]

Actually precomitting corresponds to TDT/virtue ethics, and merely trying to be predicted to do so would correspond to something else (technically TDT is in this class, but it is a much larger class than just that).

This is a really good point and might need to be repeated more often. This may be a source of some confusion about what TDT does.

Comment author: hyporational 25 November 2013 05:32:06AM 0 points [-]

or are those two indistinguishable?

I don't think they can be distinguished in the version of the Newcomb Problem that has been presented on lw. Is that what you were asking?

Comment author: [deleted] 25 November 2013 07:48:02AM 1 point [-]

Yes.