What do we already have right?

EndlessStrategy

I was just wondering. Human minds are messed up in 1001 ways, but are there a few rational principles that most people already have down? Of course, the answers to this question are probably so extremely obvious that I haven't even considered them. But I ask all the same.

theologians on religion

I think there is value in listening to theologians on religion.

The annoying mistake is made when proponents of a religion cite theologians as evidence of their presupposition of god's existence. Just because they can tell us about every nook and cranny of a particular religious tradition doesn't mean they have anything useful to say about if said religious tradition relates to reality.

This seems to be a nonsequitur. If they're citing theologians to make their argument, then they aren't presupposing God's existence at all?

4Emile13y

I agree, I hesitated about Theologians but it was the best counter-example I could find. I would probably believe Theologians rather than Internet Atheists about what a Holy Book claims, what positions a religion holds, how a book should be interpreted, etc. I'll believe a biblical scholar or an ancient historian above both though.

1CronoDAS13y

Religion is a weird case, not least because there are a lot of different, mutually exclusive religions. On the question of any specific religion, the majority of people in the world will claim that it is false. As a wise guy once said, we're all atheists, some people just disbelieve in more gods than others.