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Comment author: Lumifer 10 December 2013 05:53:09PM 3 points [-]

buy a freezer and buy your food in bulk.

Assuming you are largely indifferent between fresh and frozen food (a data point: I'm not).

Comment author: hyporational 10 December 2013 07:42:09PM 0 points [-]

I find this a false dichotomy. Care to muster a rebuke?

Comment author: Lumifer 10 December 2013 07:49:32PM *  7 points [-]

Empiricism! :-)

Most of the food that I eat doesn't freeze or doesn't freeze well (think fruits and vegetables). Frozen meat is OK for a stew but not at all OK for steaks.

I find -- based on my personal experience -- the texture, aromas, etc. of fresh food to be quite superior to those of frozen food.

Comment author: hyporational 10 December 2013 07:57:28PM 9 points [-]

Ah, it's funny how easily I forget food isn't just about fueling your cells.

I was expecting some sort of a nutrition based argument.

Comment author: Lumifer 10 December 2013 08:15:31PM 14 points [-]

I would point out that it's unwise to ignore one of the major sources of pleasure in this world :-)

Comment author: Vaniver 12 December 2013 02:18:25AM 1 point [-]

I find -- based on my personal experience -- the texture, aromas, etc. of fresh food to be quite superior to those of frozen food.

I hear that if you stir-fry vegetables, then frozen is a better option. (I eat most of the vegetables I eat raw or dehydrated, neither of which seem to do well if you freeze them first.)

Comment author: Lumifer 12 December 2013 04:22:00PM *  3 points [-]

I hear that if you stir-fry vegetables, then frozen is a better option.

I think it depends on whether you can get your heat high enough.

The point of stir-frying frozen veggies is to brown the outside while not overcooking the inside. Normally this is done by cooking non-frozen veggies at very high heat but a regular house stove can't do it properly -- so a workaround is to use frozen.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 December 2013 03:09:35AM 0 points [-]

How does freeze-them-yourself compare to buying vegetables which are already frozen?

Comment author: tut 12 December 2013 02:04:15PM 3 points [-]

The good kind of already frozen vegetables are much tastier, have better texture and have kept more of their nutrients. That is because an ordinary freezer is not nearly quick enough to preserve most vegetables.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 December 2013 04:23:45PM *  1 point [-]

Industrially-frozen food is frozen much faster which is good. A house freezer is not powerful (or cold) enough to freeze food sufficiently fast.

Comment author: Vaniver 12 December 2013 03:55:16AM 0 points [-]

I hear that buying them already frozen is cheaper, more sanitary, and less work, but I haven't looked into it myself.

Comment author: drethelin 11 December 2013 06:33:32PM 1 point [-]

re: steaks, that's just not accurate. Frozen steaks are great! I say this as someone who filled his freezer with a quarter of a cow.

Comment author: Lumifer 11 December 2013 06:39:14PM 1 point [-]

Maybe I just don't know how to deal with frozen steaks, but for me fresh-meat steaks are much, much juicier.