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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 11 December 2013 02:12:23PM 1 point [-]

The Body Electric mentioned that the Soviets were ahead of the west in studying electrical fields in biology because (not sure of the date-- sometime before the seventies) electricity sounded to much like elan vital to the westerners.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 11 December 2013 06:48:39PM 0 points [-]

Which Body Electric? I don't see it in Becker and Selden, but maybe I don't know what to look for.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 11 December 2013 07:53:03PM *  0 points [-]

Possibly this Body Electric. It's at least about the right subject, but I'd have swore I'd read it much earlier than 1998, and my copy (buried somewhere) probably had a purple cover.

The cover on the hardcover looks more familiar, and at least it's from 1985.

Wikipedia makes it sound like the right book.

Where were you searching? You had the authors right.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 11 December 2013 09:33:09PM *  0 points [-]

I looked at that book on google books. I searched for "Soviet," "elan," etc, and did not see the story you mentioned.

Added: Amazon says that the book uses these words a lot more than google says, but I didn't look at many hits.

Comment author: byrnema 11 December 2013 04:03:13PM -1 points [-]

That's interesting. I read your comment out of context and didn't know you were making a comment about the language. I agreed that I don't like thinking about electricity in animals (or more strongly, any coordinated magnetic phenomena, etc) because of this association. There is a similarity in the sounds, ("electrical" and "elan vital") but also the concepts are close in space ... perhaps the Soviets lacked this ugh field altogether.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 11 December 2013 05:21:48PM 0 points [-]

I was using "sounded like" metaphorically. I assume they knew the difference in meaning, but were affected by the similarity of concepts and worry about their reputations.

I guessed that the Soviets were more willing to do the research because Marxism was kind of like weird science, so they were willing to look into weird science in general. However, this is just a guess. A more general hypothesis is that new institutions are more willing to try new things.